Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA16287 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:38:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:15:17 +0100 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: mysticism etc Message-ID: <20000922091517.A1246@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20000921172216.B1234@reborntechnology.co.uk> <200009220025.UAA08968@mail3.lig.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200009220025.UAA08968@mail3.lig.bellsouth.net>; from joedees@bellsouth.net on Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 07:30:21PM -0500 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 07:30:21PM -0500, Joe E. Dees wrote:
> >
> > I've never heard or read anyone claim to have "felt" the consciousness
> > of the universe. You persist in your delusion that you and the universe
> > are two different things. The insight is that there's no good reason to
> > take that view. If you're conscious, the universe is conscious.
> >
> If we're conscious, then discrete systemic parts of the universe are
> (sufficiently complex to be) conscious.
"Discrete systemic" is an oxymoron. To take the systems view is to stop
pretending that parts are discrete.
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