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From: Joe E. Dees <joedees@bellsouth.net>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
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> >
> My point here is that human infants are little machines genetically
> programmed to transcend their programming, and to become free
> and unique individuals rather than have their responses
> circumscribed by species-wide instincts.
<< Joe, are you saying here, that is essence there is no collectiviness ?
That we, their parents inflick collectiviness on our children ? Interesting
!>>
It just means that there is no essence-in-general for selfhood, and each
human self-consciousness spends its life constructing its own
essence-in-particular.
<< So, each of us is a solipsistc being because our memes spent their lives
constructing self- consciousness for their host in order to propagate
themselves,
that is the memes, further ?>>
Our minds ARE esconsed in the evolving world, AND
> an evolving representation of the world resides in each mind. And
> while it is true that a representation of the world is not, and can
> never be, the world itself, as the map is never the territory, we
> yet experientially refine our individual maps throughout our lives to
> most closely match the common territory (and the individual
> aspects of it) which they represent.
<< Does this not mean, IMHO that our mind and therefor our memes are
working in a solipsistic way...the representation of the world resides in
each
mind and I suppose that those representations are in each mind different due
to
variation and selection of affects...!? >>
Many regards,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are)
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