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Part 6
The remaining quality in order to have evolution is heredity.
How in Gods name can I have inheredible properties if I am the only conscient
mind to exist !?
We do have heredity and therefor evolution in the outside world, along the
lineages of variation, imitation and selection the brain brings ideas of here-
dity into the outside world.
Even so, my brain, as a solipsistic one, perceives the increase of the other
minds as some kid of heredible process, knowing for sure I won 't_heredity
is a quality which my brain produces in order to give me an evolutionary
picture of the reality out there.
Len:
You wrote: "....heredity is a quality which my brain produces in order
to give me an evolutionary picture of the reality out there."
Are you postulaing that "your brain" and "you" are two separate entities?
In some sense, it is not even that. It is more of an illusion in order to
" explain " each time the slight different " readjustments " of ' reality
'
which my brain lets me ' exhibite '.
I ' think ' the outside world evolves as in fact it is my brain which can 't
" replicate " an accurate picture of the previous immertry.
But what about myself !? How can I propagate myself !? I can propagate
myself in a solipsistic way along the then somewhat perversive memetic
lineage of believing I am having sex with one of those humanoid objects.
But as an genetic organism i can also assume that my brain replicates
all of me into another unique container, but if ' I ' have died where is the
" me " going to !?
Len:
Isn't your offspring's container only 50% of your genome?
Wouldn't you agree that your 'container' has died but a 'partial'
genetic copy of you is inherited by your offspring? In that
sense, it seems that only part of your "me" does live on.
Slight different_ if my genotype was/ is accurate replicated where is the
phenotype gone to !?
Len:
Doesn't the phenotype die with the container?
Doesn't each new generation produce it's own phenotype?
That is, I percieve evolution in the outside world, my reality evolves along
the different memetic lineages inside my brain, but what about me !?
How is it possible that the ' Self ' ( as the only one known to itself to
exist) as an illusion stays in another brain but that the ' me ' disappears
!?
Len:
I'm not sure I undertand what other brain you are considering.
I agree that the brain inside the container disappears along with the
container.
This process begins with a rather unusual problem. Another solipsistic
brain !?
Impossible_that is contrary to the basis tenet of solipsism !!
If that is the case, the hypothesis is wrong. Pure and simple !!
Len:
Isn't each brain is a unique solipsistic entity?
Or, there is the possibility that I am one of the ' other minds '.
In that case I have the genetic line- up which is aquired for a heredible
process.
Len:
In the sense that the human species shares certain genetic hardwiring,
each one of us is---in that sense---one of the 'other minds.'
Is that what you mean?
That is, there is nothing that can exclude me being part of a greater con-
sciousness ( that is the one and only solipsistic mind).
Something I can emphize, because all what is and exists is happening
inside my brain>. SO, the idea of a mush greater consciousness is consistent
with the solipsism doctrine, the idea is dependent on the one mind which is
known to me to exist_MINE !!
In some way I am helping that greater consciousness somehoww creating a
reality for it. In order to do so is it essential that I am aware of the
fact that
I am the only mind known to exist.
Len:
I can understand how each individual with his unique solipsistic mind
is helping to create the reality of a greater consciousness.
Regarding such assumptions we have to emiphize that all the other minds
don 't have to be conscient too. That is, to keep the reality going it is of
no
necessity to define more than one mind conscient.
In that case the doctrine of solipsism stays coherent within its qualities and
the result is a solipsisitc world wherein memes find their place.
Kenneth,
I have found your six part article both provocative and interesting.
Thank you for sharing it.
Best wishes,
Len
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