RE: Gender Bias For Memes

From: Joe E. Dees (joedees@bellsouth.net)
Date: Sat Jul 22 2000 - 20:12:25 BST

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    From: "Chris Lofting" <ddiamond@ozemail.com.au>
    To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
    Subject: RE: Gender Bias For Memes
    Date sent: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:06:26 +1000
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    >
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    > > Of Joe E. Dees
    > > Sent: Sunday, 23 July 2000 3:26
    > > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > > Subject: RE: Gender Bias For Memes
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > [snip]
    > > Considering Chris' circumnambulent loquacity, one might wonder if
    > > (under Chris' own categorizations) Chris is short for Christine.
    > > >
    >
    > :-)
    >
    > Full name is Christopher John Lofting so 'you fail' Joe :-) (or is that
    > Joesephine?) Perhaps if you took the time to get out more you would see the
    > move away from rigid gender-typing and so open yourself up more; come down
    > from the safety of your ivory tower and at least take-off your shoes and
    > socks and feel the grass under your feet -- or perhaps that is too 'female'
    > for you? :-)
    >
    > best,
    >
    Then you are an exception to your own rule. Exceptions do not
    prove the rule, they probe its scope and range (Aristotle) by means
    of their status as exceptions. The reductionistic substitution of the
    simple for the actual has its memetic attraction; Occam's razor is
    as often violated by not accounting for all the data
    (oversimplification) as by adding unnecessary elements
    (overcomplication). Being and becoming, rest and motion,
    presence and absence, sameness-otherness, objects-relations,
    etc., many things fall into dualistic categorizations, but not all of
    them (the sign-signifier-signified structure is but one example of an
    irreduceable triad). Even object and relation are not equally
    apportioned, since one precedes by addition, and the other by
    Pascallian progression. One object - no relation. Two objects, one
    relation. Three objects, three relations (1+2). Four objects, six
    relations (1=2=3). And so on, as Vonnegut says. Existence is
    much too complex to be squeezed into such a formulation, but
    those who try tend to fundamentalistically appeal to a "central fact"
    or relation, upon which EVERYTHING ELSE is (because it "must
    be") based. From my paper A SHORT PHILOSOPHY OF
    HISTORY:
    .....advancing cultures are accompanied by successively more complex
    belief systems, this last to accommodate successively more inclusive and
    detailed perceptions. However, the belief system ultimately fails,
    because of both its absolutist dogmatism and the inherent inability of
    animistic-mystical belief systems to keep pace with demythologizing
    explanations proferred by technical advances. According to Stephen
    Pepper, animistic world hypotheses fail due to inadequate precision
    (common-sense fails). They tend to anthropomorphize magical presence
    into authoritarian spirit, which is crystallized into infallible, but, alas, all-
    too-fallible, authority. This authority breaks down under successively
    more central, supportable and precise criticism. Also, mystical world
    hypotheses fail due to a lack of scope. Their view originates with the
    acceptance of a “central fact”. The entire universe is interpreted,
    whether it fits or not, as absorbed within this “fact”. Where this
    absorption is implausible, the offending fact is denounced as unreal.
    The adherents of such “facts” are emotional and reductionistic. They
    believe themselves to be the vessels through which the “true fact” must
    be promulgated according to a dogma of certainty.
            Both “certainty” and “infallibility” are illusions produced by
    inadequate world-views. What opposes them is useful truth.
            The pragmatists argue that the a priori of truth is utility and the
    existentialists argue that the a priori of utility is truth. The precedence
    chosen depends upon the referential frame of the chooser, and we tend
    to view truth and utility as co-primordial, symbiotic and mutually
    grounding. However, when useful truth unmasks by counterexample of
    the world hypotheses’ conclusions the fallibility and uncertainty of their
    premises, these premises inevitably crumble.
    BTW, Splendor in the Grass is not only a fine movie, but a phrase
    in a fine poem.

    > Chris.
    > ------------------
    > Chris Lofting
    > websites:
    > http://www.eisa.net.au/~lofting
    > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond
    >
    >
    > >
    > >
    >
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