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----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Lofting <ddiamond@ozemail.com.au>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: memes and sexuality
> Kenneth wrote:
> >
> >Chris, you wrote,
> >
> >>From these very general descriptions have emerged 'us ', where we are
> >>an entanglement of those properties. Thus most DIFFErence oriented end
up
> as
> >>teachers, both male and female, but more female than male in primary/
> >>secondary levels.
> >
> >IMHO, I do think we are more DIFFERENCE oriented in general than you
> >realise. I think that males, and biological examples support the idea,
are
> be-
> >coming more femanized, that is we take over more behaviourpatterns of the
> >' pure ' female. Dragqueens, the katoi, ' beaucoup de beau garçons ', the
> >more femanized way males dress themselves up, the way we move etc.
> >are pointing in that direction.
>
> Sure, my emphasis is on 'pure' forms that over time become rare :-) If you
> apply the dichotomy of male/female recursively then you get more and more
> entanglement of both 'sides' and so closer to what we see but to get to
that
> you start with fundamental distinctions. Get those fundamentals correct
and
> the entanglement patterns will 'fit' what we see. Get the fundamentals
> incorrect and you start to get confusion.
<< So, the idea of the androgyne concept seems not to be a bad one !!
Thanks, I can continue now. >>
Regards,
Kenneth
(I am, because we are)
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