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Kenneth wrote:
>
>Chris, you wrote,
>
>>From these very general descriptions have emerged 'us ', where we are
>>an entanglement of those properties. Thus most DIFFErence oriented end up
as
>>teachers, both male and female, but more female than male in primary/
>>secondary levels.
>
>IMHO, I do think we are more DIFFERENCE oriented in general than you
>realise. I think that males, and biological examples support the idea, are
be-
>coming more femanized, that is we take over more behaviourpatterns of the
>' pure ' female. Dragqueens, the katoi, ' beaucoup de beau garçons ', the
>more femanized way males dress themselves up, the way we move etc.
>are pointing in that direction.
Sure, my emphasis is on 'pure' forms that over time become rare :-) If you
apply the dichotomy of male/female recursively then you get more and more
entanglement of both 'sides' and so closer to what we see but to get to that
you start with fundamental distinctions. Get those fundamentals correct and
the entanglement patterns will 'fit' what we see. Get the fundamentals
incorrect and you start to get confusion.
best,
Chris.
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