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> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Vincent Campbell
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> Subject: RE: (part 2) Philosophy of Technology: scale and meaning;
> sameness and difference
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>
> So you wouldn't agree with The X-Files' Mulder then that
> 'The truth is out there' ? :-)
>
:-) many 'truths' are out there; it depends on which ones you claim. This
goes back to the distinction of personal, cultural, and universal 'truths'.
It is the resonance of 'in here' that determines a truth and so for any
model of understanding we have to include the possibility of
illusion/delusion.
We can re-express the phrase as 'the truth is *out there*' implying it is
not 'in here'. OR how about 'the truth is out, (so) there'.
The feelings that we experience as 'truth' are very much 'in here' such that
I can determine a 'truth' from pure thought!
However, if we have adapted to our environment by internalisating algorithms
from 'out there' so the truth IS out there...sort of :-)
best,
Chris.
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Chris Lofting
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