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On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Vincent Campbell wrote:
>There is simply no way NLP programmes can work, except one- and that is the
>use of chemicals (i.e. drugs) to make subjects compliant. Using
>'representations systems', does not produce direct causal impacts on
>behaviour. This is well known, has been empirically demonstrated, and is
Vince, very little of what I have seen written _about_ NLP is worth much,
whether pro or con. At this stage of reporting on NLP, I suspect
that only personal experience is particularly useful, unfortunately.
Most of the sources that Chris listed are technique-oriuented, rather than
evaluative. The success with which NLP is used depends greatly on the
skills of the practitioners, which depends in part on the skills of the
trainers. Training standards and practitioner standards vary radically
within the NLP world, which has properly given NLP a mixed
reputation. (Properly, that is, if we hold a doctrine/skill set
accountable for the deeds and misdeeds of its adherents and
practitioners.)
- Lawrence
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