Re: Joe's anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic attacks

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Date: Tue 17 Jun 2003 - 19:09:01 GMT

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    From: "Dace" <edace@earthlink.net> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Joe's anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic attacks Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:55:54 -0700 Send reply to: memetics@mmu.ac.uk

    > > From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com>
    > >
    > > That I'm taking flak from both Joe and Dace (ie- both value-laden
    > extremes)
    > > must mean something. Both of you are proving the point that many
    > > list members would agree with, that these topics are too hot-buttony
    > > to discuss without this forum turning into a wrestling arena.
    > > Lawry's recent idea
    > about
    > > creating another list for Middle East topics (he actually IIRC was
    > > more specific regarding the war in Iraq) may be a way of easing the
    > > pressure
    > off
    > > the list.
    > >
    > > My contribution will be in not responding either to Joe or Dace with
    > regards
    > > to anything biased towards their respective POV's wrt Middle East
    > > topics, though I may repond to them on other topics.
    > >
    > > If somebody such as Keith Henson posts something interesting wrt his
    > > ideas about terrorism and its ideological etiology or somebody else
    > > makes a reasonably objective post in the future along the lines of
    > > cultural evolution, ideology and the Arab-Israeli conflict or
    > > terrorism in the
    > Middle
    > > East, I reserve the right to respond. For instance I think Vincent
    > > had
    > made
    > > a critique of an abstract (one of many abstracts posted by Derek
    > > Gatherer) about terrorism and the media as a putative source of
    > > contagion. It would
    > be
    > > a bad thing to keep either Keith or Vincent from making cogent posts
    > > just because they touch on these issues. That's the problem, where's
    > > the line drawn? Wade just made a post about propaganda put forth
    > > promoting Saudi Arabia. Is he at fault for this?
    >
    > Settle down, Scott. The only problem here is the hysterical
    > over-reaction that following my critique of Israel, which, by the way,
    > was one of numerous recent posts intended to demonstrate a point I'm
    > trying to make about memetics. The hysteria started with Joe (who
    > nicely proved my point that criticism of Israel triggers the
    > anti-Semitic charge) and then swept up you and Jake. I'd like to add
    > that there was no provocation whatsoever of this hysterical interlude.
    >
    > Also, as the moderator's recent post didn't make it to the digest for
    > some reason, I'd like to re-post it here to make sure everyone has a
    > chance to read it:
    >
    > FROM MODERATOR: this is not a list about Islam!
    > From: Bruce Edmonds (b.edmonds@mmu.ac.uk)
    > Date: Tue 17 Jun 2003 - 16:11:45 GMT
    >
    > Please keep on topic. I will not give any more warnings - I will
    > simply throw people off if they swamp the list with other stuff. Each
    > person has a responsibility to moderate their own posts - regardless
    > of whether others' posts are provoking.
    >
    >
    > You have been warned.
    >
    >
    > Regards.
    >
    Remember it, Dace, and stop attempting to slide your personal bigotries in the back door by endeavoring to tie their wagon tongues to other topics. That ploy of yours, especially concerning Sheldrake, is all too familiar with those onlist, and thus will be immediately recognized. I will not reply to you if you do it again; I will simply bring it to the list moderator's attention so that he may take appropriate action. In the interests of fairness, either all sides or none get aired here, and the list moderator has decided on the latter course.
    >
    > -------------------------------------------------- Bruce Edmonds,
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