Re: Joe's anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic attacks

From: Dace (edace@earthlink.net)
Date: Tue 17 Jun 2003 - 18:55:54 GMT

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    > From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com>
    >
    > That I'm taking flak from both Joe and Dace (ie- both value-laden
    extremes)
    > must mean something. Both of you are proving the point that many list
    > members would agree with, that these topics are too hot-buttony to discuss
    > without this forum turning into a wrestling arena. Lawry's recent idea
    about
    > creating another list for Middle East topics (he actually IIRC was more
    > specific regarding the war in Iraq) may be a way of easing the pressure
    off
    > the list.
    >
    > My contribution will be in not responding either to Joe or Dace with
    regards
    > to anything biased towards their respective POV's wrt Middle East topics,
    > though I may repond to them on other topics.
    >
    > If somebody such as Keith Henson posts something interesting wrt his ideas
    > about terrorism and its ideological etiology or somebody else makes a
    > reasonably objective post in the future along the lines of cultural
    > evolution, ideology and the Arab-Israeli conflict or terrorism in the
    Middle
    > East, I reserve the right to respond. For instance I think Vincent had
    made
    > a critique of an abstract (one of many abstracts posted by Derek Gatherer)
    > about terrorism and the media as a putative source of contagion. It would
    be
    > a bad thing to keep either Keith or Vincent from making cogent posts just
    > because they touch on these issues. That's the problem, where's the line
    > drawn? Wade just made a post about propaganda put forth promoting Saudi
    > Arabia. Is he at fault for this?

    Settle down, Scott. The only problem here is the hysterical over-reaction that following my critique of Israel, which, by the way, was one of numerous recent posts intended to demonstrate a point I'm trying to make about memetics. The hysteria started with Joe (who nicely proved my point that criticism of Israel triggers the anti-Semitic charge) and then swept up you and Jake. I'd like to add that there was no provocation whatsoever of this hysterical interlude.

    Also, as the moderator's recent post didn't make it to the digest for some reason, I'd like to re-post it here to make sure everyone has a chance to read it:

    FROM MODERATOR: this is not a list about Islam! From: Bruce Edmonds (b.edmonds@mmu.ac.uk) Date: Tue 17 Jun 2003 - 16:11:45 GMT

    Please keep on topic. I will not give any more warnings - I will simply throw people off if they swamp the list with other stuff. Each person has a responsibility to moderate their own posts - regardless of whether others' posts are provoking.

    You have been warned.

    Regards.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bruce Edmonds, Centre for Policy Modelling, Manchester Metropolitan University, Aytoun Bldg., Aytoun St., Manchester, M1 3GH. UK. Tel: +44 161 247 6479 Fax: +44 161 247 6802 Email: bruce@cfpm.org Web: bruce.edmonds.name

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