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Kenneth -
May I suggest that you read Dawkins on this - the Selfish Gene, Chap 10, to
start with. Even better because he offers more computer simulation that really
illustrates how the genes are involved in this one, read Wright's The Moral
Animal - chap 9. The long and short of both of these books is that there is a
genetic advantage to a strategy of exchanging with people who will return the
favor. It's an extremely important principle for understanding how society
works.
Kenneth Van Oost wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Spight <bspight@pacbell.net>
> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 8:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Central questions of memetics
>
> << Does something having a use in our ancestral environment explain
> its specific form (or forms) of existence in the contemporary environment?
> >>
>
> Maybe I am what late, and may be I am way off the track here, but
> I came across this.
>
> Faith did have its use in our ancestral world and its specific form (trust)
> is explained as such in the contemporay environment. No !?
>
> If we loose our trust can we keep our faith !?
>
> Kant said, before something works it has to be synthesized into a concept.
> So, before faith works as such it have to possess a bias of/ for trust;
> otherwise nobody would believe anything.
>
> Faith have its use in our ancestral world as a system of (some kind of)
> truth and its specific form (trust) is explained as such in the contemporay
> environment not as a system of truth but as some kind of justice in which we
> exchange our desires and needs between eachother. (Rorty)
> That is, we entrust our desires and needs to systems which we approach
> as systems (of some) truth, but which are definitely not like that.
> They are just interpretations in which we reflect our desires and needs.
> Those systems are based (we hope) on trust, that is:- such systems hold
> within some truth.
> Without them, we can't exist.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
> (I am, because we are)
>
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