Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA21745 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 4 Jun 2000 01:44:03 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:41:38 +1000 (EST) From: Dr ChRISTOPhER CLEiRIGh <chris@syrinx.com.au> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Fwd: [COMPLEX-M] "Intelligent Design" lobby Congress against Darwinism In-Reply-To: <MailDrop1.2d7j-PPC.1000602103151@mac463.wehi.edu.au> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006041034160.31203-100000@kite.syrinx.com.au> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, John Wilkins wrote:
*|*  The Intelligent Design people are a sophisticated form of Paleyesque
*|*  creationist. They are attempting to have Darwinian thinking removed not
*|*  only from the American (and by extension other countries') education
*|*  systems, but also to remove funding for projects that assume Darwinian
*|*  principles. This is the reason why they are taking a political approach
*|*  - they call it the "Wedge strategy", to edge Darwinian theory out of
*|*  scientific discourse.
*|*  
*|*  To this end they egregiously misconstrue Darwinian thinking. Dembski has
*|*  argued that genetic algorithms cannot search large spaces (in defiance
*|*  of all experience), and that selection cannot generate "information"
*|*  (which is some sort of mystical property not exhibited by things that do
*|*  evolve darwinianly). 
*|*  
*|*  Behe denies that evolution can generate "irreducibly complex" systems
*|*  for which the modification or removal of any component would make it
*|*  non-functional, as if duplication and function shifts were unheard of. 
*|*  
*|*  Phillip Johnson accuses scientists of the sin of "naturalism" (which,
*|*  unlike the naturalistic fallacy in ethics, is the "fallacy" of assuming
*|*  that all that exists is natural, when in fact what naturalism science
*|*  exhibits is epistemological - it's been pointed out to him, and yet he
*|*  repeats it). All are motivated by theology, and all have no interest in
*|*  science except insofar as it serves that theology.
*|*  
*|*  To my mind this represents both an interesting social movement that is
*|*  itself memetic - the reinvasion of a modified form of concept into an
*|*  ecology (science) that had previously selected against it - and also a
*|*  major challenge to the advances since Darwin. If they have their way,
*|*  science will be prohibited by fiat from investigating certain things
*|*  that offend theological presuppositions.
*|*  --
*|*  
*|*  John Wilkins, Head, Graphic Production
*|*  The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research
*|*  Melbourne, Australia
*|*  <mailto:wilkins@WEHI.EDU.AU>
*|*  <http://www.users.bigpond.com/thewilkins/darwiniana.html>
*|*  Homo homini aut deus aut lupus - Erasmus of Rotterdam
Thanks for this and your earlier posting on the history of `emergence'
(and `supervenience').  I think I'll avoid talking about the ID people so
as not to replicate their memes.
regards,
chris
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Philosophers' Syndrome:
to mistake a failure of imagination for an insight into necessity.
The Naturalistic Fallacy:
to equate what is with what ought to be.
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