From: Jeremy Bradley (jeremyb@nor.com.au)
Date: Sun 24 Nov 2002 - 01:05:53 GMT
At 06:56 PM 23/11/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Lawry wrote:
>What about LEHI and Irgun and the events at places such as Deir Yassin?
Jeremy:
There was the Stern Group as well.
Lawry:
>I haven't been able to delve into Benny Morris's historic treatment of the
>nakba of 48 yet, but have read that things are not quite as dandy as the Der
>Judenstaat creation myths make them out to be. There was an Arab majority in
>the Palestinian portion of the Ottoman empire previous to the aliyahs.
>Organized Zionism resulted in an influx of diaspora Jews. Still the
>proportions as I recall favored the Arabs. Then during Israel's War of
>Independence (aka the Palestinian nakba) there was a displacment of
>Palestinian Arabs from Israel proper. This was best for the fledgling
>Israeli state if they were to be democratic, since demography favoring Arabs
>would not be in their interests at the voting booth.
>
Jeremy:
As I have said before, Israel was born through terrorism, and it was
sponsored by USAnian Zionists - with the knowledge of all, including the
Administration.
"The Jews of America (sic) are with you. You are their champion. You are
the grin they wear. You are the feather in their hats...Every time you blow
up a British arsenal, or wreck a British jail, or send a British train
sky-high, or rob a British bank, or let go with your guns and bombs at the
British betrayers and invaders of your homeland, the Jews of America (sic)
make a little holiday in their hearts." (Ben Hecht, New York Herald Tribune
5/15/47. In 'The Palestinians' Jonathan Dimbleby, Quartet Books, London,
1979, p.83)
"I am sorry gentlemen, but I have to answer to hundreds of thousands of
those who are anxious for the success of Zionism; I do not have hundreds of
thousands of Arabs in my constituents." (FDR addressing Arab leaders at the
White House. In 'FDR meets Ibin Saud', New York, 1954, p.37)
Virtually all of Israel's first Cabinet was wanted for crimes of terror
against the British, including Ze'evi whose assassination lead to the
current round of 'eye-for-an-eye' killings. Doubtless Osama will be a
legitimate target for the rest of his days, but that's different.
There are two sides Joe, and therefore two perspectives.
Jeremy
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