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From: Robin Faichney <robin@faichney.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Reborn Technology
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: What is it good for?
Date sent: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 07:10:31 +0100
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> As often happens, I thought of a neat answer to something I saw here,
> long after deleting the message and shutting down the machine.
>
> Anyway, for the doubters among us, memetics explains the spread of
> patterns of behaviour through a population without invoking the
> subjective spectre of the mind, without involving either consciousness
> or free will. But don't worry, it doesn't compromise your freedom,
> because due to non-linearities etc, individual cases will always be
> too complex to be predicted.
>
It is you who doubt your own self- and other-consciousness, Robin,
and I am beginning to doubt yours as well. But then, It isn't really
your fault, ayy? Like any mass murderer or saint, scientist,
mystic, tall-tale-teller or philosopher, you Have to say and do what
you say and do, regardless of its veracity. I, however, am free to
critically consider all feasible alternatives, and reject those which
ineluctably lead to reductio ad absurdum self-contradictions. The
reason that our future actions canot be absolutely predicted is
because they have not from the Big Bang been decided (duh!), by
either a Western Yahveh or an Eastern Karma-Dharma.
>
Check out
http://www.newscientist.com/archive/archive.jsp?id=17094200
>
Probability (which cannot coexist with determinism) is at the root
and heart of mathematics itself, rather than physics alone; IOW,
uncertainty and undecideability permeate the candidate members a
subset of which comprise the interlocking system of principles
grounding reality's possibilities, not just as an epistemological
limitation (what we can know) but as an ontological one (what can
and cannot be).
> --
> Robin Faichney
>
>
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>
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