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Anne Hansen wrote:
> > I don't know anything up on the web on the subject, and I doubt if there
> is. I
> > suggest that you start by reading the sociologist Max Weber's stuff on the
> > development of the protestant ethic - in its original. Keep in mind that
> he was
> > wrong on one major aspect: he assumes that the protestant ethic came first
> and
> > created capitalism.
>
> I understood that Webber did not believe that the protestant ethic
> was the only cause of the rise of capitalism, just acknowledged it as a
> powerful force.
>
> In fact, there was a dialectic relationship between the
> > developing economy and the emerging protestant ethic. He took his
> position,
> > however, specifically to counter the Marxist approach. But from a cultural
> > perspective, his work is excellent in showing how the culture developing
> to
> > accomodate capitalism was a practical effort to develop the conceptual
> tools
> > necessary to live in a capitalist society.
> >
> I found this paragraph very true of where we have arrived today!
>
> "No one knows who will live in this cage in the future, or whether
> at the end of this tremendous development entirely new prophets will arise,
> or there will be a great rebirth of old ideas and ideals or, if neither,
> mechanized petrification embellished with a sort of convulsive
> self-importance. For of the last stage of this cultural development, it
> might well be truly said: 'Specialists without spirit, sensualists without
> heart; this nullity imagines that it has obtained a level of civilization
> never before achieved'" (1904/1930, p. 182).
>
> Anne...
>
Thanx for the quote. It is very current as you say. I should read more of Weber!
>
> > >
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