RE: The terrorism meme

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue 05 Nov 2002 - 00:13:08 GMT

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    > Don't forget the Golan Heights. There are more Israeli settlements and
    > settlers in the Golan than in Gaza; the Golan and Gaza have the same
    > 1967 legal status: Occupied Territories.
    >
    Israel would be well served to return the Golan Heights to Syria, and has been negotiating its return in return for Syrian security guarantees that it will not be used to launch attacks against Israel, either by Syria or by Muslim guerrillas.
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    > Israel Gov't also distinguishes between the West Bank and East
    > Jerusalem, and wants to hold on to the areas of East Jerusalem in
    > which there is substantial Jewish settlement though East Jerusalem is
    > within the West Bank (and occupied by Israel in 1967), and the areas
    > between these settlements, though they are inhabited solely by
    > Palestinians.
    >
    I think that the only feasible solution for Jerusalem is to allow both Israel and an eventual Palestinian state to locate their capitols in their respective preferred quarters of the city, and to internationalize its overall administration.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Lawry
    >
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    > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On
    > Behalf Of joedees@bellsouth.net Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:41
    > PM To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: The terrorism meme
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    > > >From: joedees@bellsouth.net
    > > >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > > >To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk, fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
    > > >Subject: Re: The terrorism meme
    > > >Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:02:16 -0600
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    > > > > joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
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    > > > > > http://www.meforum.org/article/175
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    > > > > Middle East Forum, ("Protecting America's Interests) -
    > > > > colleagues of our friends in Campus Watch.
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    > > >Ad hominem. Check out the articles, and judge them on their
    > > >merits. I could have posted scathing critiques of Edward Said, but
    > > >refrained.
    > > >
    > > What's the problem with Ed Said? I haven't read a whole lot of what
    > > he's written, but he wrote an essay that capped off the book _The
    > > War for Palestine_ (edited by Eugene Rogan and Avi Shlaim. 2001.
    > > Cambridge University Press. Cambridge UK) which seemed alright to
    > > me. Also writing essays in this book were Benny Morris and Avi
    > > Shlaim, who are Israeli "New Historians" that those on the Israeli
    > > far right might consider as bad as Said because they don't tow the
    > > line of standard Israeli historiography.
    > >
    > You might wanna check out:
    > http://www.newcriterion.com/archive/17/jan99/said.htm
    > >
    > > I've no problems with the general spirit of Palestinian
    > > self-determination, but the tactics used have been abhorrent. I've
    > > no truck with suicide bombers and if the moderates of the
    > > Palestinian side don't start coming to the forefront and taking back
    > > the reins of their cause from the Islamicists and other assorted
    > > extremist rejection fronters, I can't see much more than a whole lot
    > > more needless bloodletting down the road. I can't blame Israel for
    > > retaliation, but I also see settlement policies as not being
    > > helpful.
    > >
    > > Hopefully Israel takes a turn toward the left or center left with
    > > all the commotion surrounding late breaking power struggles. A vote
    > > of no confidence in the Knesset could go a long way to securing the
    > > future of the peace process. The Likud Revisionists and the
    > > nationalist religious right are impeding the peace process too, via
    > > settlement policies in the occupied territories.
    > >
    > As long as the Palestinian suicide bombings continue, Israel will be
    > forced into a stance of pre-emptive occupation. I agree that the
    > Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza should be removed. > > >
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