RE: Advertising studies

From: havelock (havelock@tig.com.au)
Date: Tue May 23 2000 - 03:12:42 BST

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    Subject: RE: Advertising studies
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    it's a bit open ended to say 'anything'...it just encourages panic ( unless
    that is your intention). 'Anything' is possible ...but their are
    limitations. The main one is that you ( as the user ) have to provide the
    information in some way. The main things they store is critical data like:

    my name: only you can give your real one [ though if you are on a PC go into
    the control panel --> network --> identification tab as this can be
    accessed ]

    how many times I have been to this site: who cares

    yadda yadda yadda

    more invasive techniques are used when you shop using credit cards and
    rewards schemes for grocery shopping than are out there on the net at the
    moment.

    Generally there are really exciting things like that those detailed below
    can be collected automatically everytime you go through a CGI script-
    without your permission. The usual ones are:

    SERVER_SOFTWARE = Zeus/3.3
    DOCUMENT_ROOT = /www/db
    GATEWAY_INTERFACE = CGI/1.1
    REMOTE_ADDR =
    SERVER_PROTOCOL = HTTP/1.1
    REMOTE_HOST =
    REQUEST_METHOD = POST
    HTTP_REFERER =
    REMOTE_USER =
    HTTP_USER_AGENT = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)
    QUERY_STRING =
    PATH =
    ...:/root:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/work/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/home/local
    :/home/local/bin:/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local:/usr/local/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/
    bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/etc:/usr/ucb:/etc
    VSERVER_NAME =
    HTTP_CONNECTION = Keep-Alive
    HTTP_ACCEPT = application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword,
    application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg,
    image/pjpeg, application/x-comet, */*
    HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = en-us
    AUTH_TYPE = Basic
    HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING = gzip, deflate
    SCRIPT_FILENAME = /www/db/cgi-bin/formmail.cgi
    SCRIPT_NAME = /cgi-bin/formmail.cgi
    SERVER_NAME =
    REQUEST_URI = /cgi-bin/formmail.cgi
    SERVER_PORT = 80
    CONTENT_LENGTH = 271
    CONTENT_TYPE = application/x-www-form-urlencoded
    HTTP_HOST =
    SERVER_ADMIN =

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    > Of Richard Brodie
    > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:56 AM
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: RE: Advertising studies
    >
    >
    > A cookie is a text file. Basically anything can be stored in it.
    > I think you
    > have a tendency to say something is impossible if you don't understand it.
    >
    > Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com
    > http://www.memecentral.com/rbrodie.htm
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
    > Of chuck
    > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 9:22 AM
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: Re: Advertising studies
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Richard Brodie wrote:
    >
    > > Chuck wrote:
    > >
    > > <<At least for now, the complaint is that it's hard
    > > to know the nature of the universe of customers, and internet users are
    > > still
    > > a small slice of the population. Also, I think there is a
    > realization that
    > > much of commerce will not be internet. And, -here's something I
    > am unclear
    > > on
    > > - exactly what kind of information do you get from cookies. What's your
    > take
    > > on this?>>
    > >
    > > With current technology an advertiser can tell exactly what
    > impression led
    > > to the click-through. You can store basically anything in a
    > cookie. It's a
    > > way for a merchant to create a profile on a customer without
    > asking her to
    > > fill in a form, etc.
    >
    > Seriously - just WHAT can be stored. It's not "basically anything" because
    > that's impossible. Is it that pattern of her choices through the
    > site? And
    > what
    > are the kinds things about the consumer you can infer from them?
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com
    > > http://www.memecentral.com/rbrodie.htm
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