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>From: Steve Drew <srdrew_1@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: memetics-digest V1 #1023
>Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:17:55 +0100
>
>Hi Lawrence
>
> > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:57:57 -0400
> > From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
> > Subject: RE: memetics-digest V1 #1023
> >
> >> Steve Drew:
> >> I think [advertisers] have learned the 'cruder' techniques such as the
> > 'sex sells'
> >> example you mentioned. I don't think it is because they are that good,
>but
> >> that they stick to ones that have been useful in the past. The
> >> problem they
> >> face is that everyone's responses are different, and IMO they have not
> >> developed enough ideas on how to overcome this yet, but if they do then
>I
> >> agree that things could get rough.
> >
> >
> > And that is one of the reasons we should be wary of turning memetics
>into a
> > technology and releasing it publicly. I consider this list a public
>forum.
> >
> > Lawrence
>
>It is indeed. Unfortunately Pandora is still around, and so are the people
>who would open the box, including me and thee?
>
>
It's hard to read something like Lawrence posted above without the
obligatory eye roll and snort of milk through the nose. All something like
memetic engineering would entail is renaming something that's been going on
long before the "meme" was contemplated. Calling it a virus, contagion or
what have you adds nothing to its technological aspect. It's akin to putting
the old wine of sales, marketing and advertising into new bottles with fancy
colours. Lawrence is merely caught up in the fervor of the "meme" "meme" and
it's clogging up his cognitive filters.
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