Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id SAA07457 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:04:25 +0100 Message-ID: <006d01c1ec79$7f9a4860$5e2ffea9@oemcomputer> From: "Philip Jonkers" <philipjonkers@prodigy.net> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <JJEIIFOCALCJKOFDFAHBEEBEEMAA.richard@brodietech.com> Subject: Re: Media and Violence Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:51:50 -0700 Organization: Prodigy Internet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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From: "Richard Brodie" <richard@brodietech.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: Media and Violence
> <<Nature is `red in tooth and claw'. Humans are part of nature, therefore
> humans
> are `red in tooth and claw' too.>>
>
> Water is wet. Oxygen is part of water, therefore oxygen is wet too.
Wetness is an emergent property of water, i.e. macroscopic clusters of H2O
molecules. Although oxygen is chemically part of H2O upon extraction from
water it assumes a gaseous state under normal conditions
(room temperature, 1 atm pressure etc.).
Since `wetness' can only be an emergent property of material in a liquid
state (or dampy state at least) it cannot
be an emergent property of oxygen which is a gas.
Phil.
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