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Vincent Campbell wrote:
> Actually as I wrote that I thought someone smart would think of something
> like that response!
>
> What I'm getting at though, is that a lot of our physical behaviour is not
> conscious, and so doesn't require belief.
So intuitive physics is out? People can't necessarily even tell you what those
beliefs are, but the are - well, beliefs. Frankly, it sounds like the old
categories of conscious/unconscious are going to have to be revised one of these
days with a mind to the actual structures and processes in the brain.
> As far as we know other animals
> don't have beliefs- or at least ones which they feel the need to express the
> way humans do through behaviours such as ritual- and yet they survive.
>
> > ----------
> > From: Wade T.Smith
> > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 5:13 pm
> > To: memetics list
> > Subject: RE: Central questions of memetics
> >
> > On 05/18/00 12:01, Vincent Campbell said this-
> >
> > >If I threw a ball at you and you caught it, what would you need to
> > believe
> > >in to attempt to catch it?
> >
> > That it would hurt me if it hit me, or that by catching it I'd be assured
> > it wouldn't hurt me, or that you cared if I caught it or not.
> >
> > If I didn't believe something about that ball besides its physical
> > reality, then I'd just let it hit the ground.
> >
> > - Wade
> >
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