Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA00814 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 12 May 2000 13:04:40 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D31CEB185@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Fwd: Did language drive society or vice versa? Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:02:53 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
I don't want to posit this as a serious contribution to this discussion, but
you've given us a brilliant example of a meme we all know- the chicken and
the egg conundrum. Does anyone have any clever answers to that? (or rather
why does it persist?).
Mine answer to the question itself would be that eggs came first, because
eggs appeared before chickens evolved. Why it persists? Well I don't know-
another useless meme?
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> From: Bruce Jones
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:50 pm
> To: 'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'
> Cc: Kevin O'Connor (KMO)
> Subject: RE: Fwd: Did language drive society or vice versa?
>
> Getting back to the original discussion ... Did language drive society or
> vice versa?
>
> I think we all agree that if we could not communicate we could not have
> society.
>
> Society lives and dies based on shared ideals, ideas, enterprise and
> commitment. Take away or never have some form of communication
> (minimalist
> definition) and none of this is possible.
>
> There are different languages and regional differences within those
> languages leading to linguistic groups and sub-groups ... each has a
> different agenda or background or specialty defined and expressed by their
> language. Therefore IMHO you can't have one without the other.
>
> Which came first the chicken or the egg?
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
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