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I'm afraid ilt doesn't ring true. The fact is, it feels much more like a
negative feedback loop because it blocks the stuff that goes on in consciousness
- planning - from happening. The point is, there is no usage in the external
world - which is what I talk about when I say use.
Tyger wrote:
> maybe I can get Chuck out of the payment..:-)
> an irritating tune is supposedly 'Bad' for the recipient. However that
> disregards the fact that the brain involved got hold of the said tune be
> being exposed to it in a given society. what is useful to this brain is
> being part of that society. the fact that this society creates a tune which
> is irritating to the individual, is a side product to be worked with on an
> individual , meme- contra-meme. Hence , this tune is Good for the recipient
> even (and maybe even in spite of) if the recipient being irritated by it.
> someone mentioned bureaucracy, and that may be looked at similarly,
> irritating on the discreet level usefull on the meta-level, revert to useful
> on the discreet level.
>
> Tyger
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diana Stevenson" <dianaxf@hotmail.com>
> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 1:54 AM
> Subject: A useless meme for Chuck
>
> >
> > Chuck - an example of a useless meme is surely one of Dawkins' originals:
> an
> > irritating tune which goes round and round in our minds. If I have a tune
> > on the brain last thing at night, I wake up with it still on the brain in
> > the morning and it can recur throughout the day. Usually it's a tune I
> > don't even like!
> >
> > While the tune may have been useful to the person who "wrote" it, can you
> > tell me how it is useful to those of us whose brains continually replicate
> > it? Or why we will sing or whistle it to pass it on? (I exclude
> advertising
> > jingles - those aren't the ones that stick with me).
> >
> > Do I qualify for the promised $100?:)
> >
> > Diana
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> >
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