Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA20413 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 10 May 2000 13:52:54 +0100 Message-ID: <008b01bfbaeb$b0ebfd80$03000004@r2z3h3> From: "Tyger" <void@internet-zahav.net.il> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <20000509235452.80254.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: A useless meme for Chuck Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 03:53:21 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
maybe I can get Chuck out of the payment..:-)
an irritating tune is supposedly 'Bad' for the recipient. However that
disregards the fact that the brain involved got hold of the said tune be
being exposed to it in a given society. what is useful to this brain is
being part of that society. the fact that this society creates a tune which
is irritating to the individual, is a side product to be worked with on an
individual , meme- contra-meme. Hence , this tune is Good for the recipient
even (and maybe even in spite of) if the recipient being irritated by it.
someone mentioned bureaucracy, and that may be looked at similarly,
irritating on the discreet level usefull on the meta-level, revert to useful
on the discreet level.
Tyger
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From: "Diana Stevenson" <dianaxf@hotmail.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 1:54 AM
Subject: A useless meme for Chuck
>
> Chuck - an example of a useless meme is surely one of Dawkins' originals:
an
> irritating tune which goes round and round in our minds. If I have a tune
> on the brain last thing at night, I wake up with it still on the brain in
> the morning and it can recur throughout the day. Usually it's a tune I
> don't even like!
>
> While the tune may have been useful to the person who "wrote" it, can you
> tell me how it is useful to those of us whose brains continually replicate
> it? Or why we will sing or whistle it to pass it on? (I exclude
advertising
> jingles - those aren't the ones that stick with me).
>
> Do I qualify for the promised $100?:)
>
> Diana
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