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Subject: memetics and semiotics
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> I was wondering weather Terrence Deacons approach to memetics
> in his article "The trouble with memes (and what to do about it)"
> from 1999 in the Semiotic Review of Books has received critique. It
> seems very tempting to see memes as Peirceian "sign vehicles"
> and it would indeed solve many troubles memetics seems to be
> having. I believe we can talk of an evolution of signs, and the sign
> vehicle as the replicator. Human organism, but in this also case
> any object that can take part in semiosis (books, TV, art, traffic
> signs aso.) would probably count as substrat and the selective
> enviroment.
>
Could you please post Deacon's article or furnish a URL for access
to it?
>
>
> I would be greatful for any recommendations on articles or books
> where semiotics and memetics are studied and compared. In
> Journal of Memetics Derek Gatherers article from 1997
> "Macromemetics: ..." gives some thoughts on semiotics, but does
> not deal with them in more detail.
>
> Oliver Kullman
> University of Tartu
> okullman@ut.ee
>
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