RE: new line: what's the point?

From: Joe E. Dees (joedees@bellsouth.net)
Date: Sun Mar 05 2000 - 20:23:42 GMT

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    From: "Richard Brodie" <richard@brodietech.com>
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    Subject: RE: new line: what's the point?
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    > Joe wrote:
    >
    > >Most memes,
    > >and especially successfully selected ones, are transmitted and
    > >attended to by choice, because to choose to transmit and/or
    > >receive them is believed to hold some positive value for the
    > >transmitter/receiver, or to choose to forbear from such memetic
    > >transmission/reception is believed to hold some negative value for
    > >the transmitter/receiver, or both.
    >
    > I assume you are not necessarily ruling out "unconscious choice" when you
    > make this statement. In my judgment the vast majority of memes are selected
    > unconsciously. For instance, repetition of broadcast information (such as
    > advertising slogans and TV serials) tends to be retained and sometimes
    > passed on. If only we all chose the memes we transmitted consciously! (see
    > http://www.memecentral.com/level3.htm for an unscientific mythology around
    > this)
    >
    Yes, we have a lot of unwelcome garbage cluttering up our memory
    banks, placed there by the inexorable pounding and sticky hooks
    of slick and repetitive advertizing, and this does add to the pool of
    alternatives we consider between when we make our choices;
    otherwise, advertizing would not be a profitable venture. Frequently
    we sleepwalk through life, and allow the first alternatives which
    comes to mind to be our default choices. But these choices are
    not entirely unconscious; they are instead unattended to, not
    focused upon, occupying the fringes of our awareness due to their
    being perceived as insignificant or routine (making no differences
    which really make differences). Those decisions which we perceive
    as momentous or novel are the ones for which our attentional filters
    tend to reserve our finite attentional time; sometimes, things pass
    the filters which shouldn't, or fail to pass them when they should,
    and we should be on guard against this, as much as we can, but if
    we autistically attempted to totally focus and concentrate upon
    every little detail that flits briefly into our awareness, we'd never get
    anything done, including our own lives.
    >
    > Richard Brodie richard@brodietech.com www.memecentral.com/rbrodie.htm
    >
    >
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