Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA02256 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:50:49 GMT Message-Id: <200002252349.SAA25483@mail4.lig.bellsouth.net> From: "Joe E. Dees" <joedees@bellsouth.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:53:18 -0600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Monkeys stone herdsman in Kenya In-reply-to: <B0000256794@htcompmail.htcomp.net> References: <200002251837.NAA16568@mail4.lig.bellsouth.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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From: "Mark M. Mills" <mmills@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: Monkeys stone herdsman in Kenya
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> Joe,
>
> At 12:41 PM 2/25/00 -0600, you wrote:
> > Who would
> >assert, for instance, that a band of baboons throwing rocks at
> >another band of baboons trying to drink water at their watering hole
> >comprised culture?
>
> Why not?
>
Next you'll tell me that an otter swimming on its back with a rock
on its belly with which it cracks clams, or a seagull dropping
oysters on coastal rocks and then eating the meat exposed by the
breakage are culture.
> > The two situations, however, are for all
> >practical purposes identical.
>
> Right. We have a host of anthropological work which painstakingly
> describes subtle differences in 'human water hole attack' strategies. As
> you say, this monkey attack and human variants are practically identical
> situations. I see no reason to avoid using the term culture here.
>
And just what are all the variant rock-throwing defence strategies
employed by baboons? Humans have a plethora of military
strategies, which have evolved over time.
>
> Mark
>
>
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