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From:           	Robin Faichney <robin@faichney.demon.co.uk>
Organization:   	Reborn Technology
To:             	memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject:        	Re: What are memes made of?
Date sent:      	Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:20:19 +0000
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> On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Joe E. Dees wrote:
> >
> >> William van den heuvel:
> >> 
> >> So, if you like to bring in the "intentional stance" it would have to follow
> >> the "meaning stance". Hence, we now have four stances:
> >> 1.- the physical stance
> >> 2.- the formal stance
> >> 3.- the meaning stance
> >> 4.- the intentional stance
> >> 
> >Meaning and intention are co-primordial in the sense that there 
> >must be meaning differences for there to be selective intention, but 
> >selective intention is necessary to imbue particular meanings.  For 
> >every intention, there must be both an intending applied to an 
> >intended, and an intender; for every meaning (noun) there must be 
> >both a meaning (verb) applied to a meant, and a meaner.
> 
> Is this a development of "ordinary language" philosophy?
>
It is a co-development of US/British analytic philosophy (which 
includes ordinary language philosophy) and French/German 
continental philosophy (which includes existential and hermeneutic 
phenomenology).  Rephrasing using the word signification, I could 
replace the ugly word "meaner" thusly:
For every signification, there must be both a signifying applied to a 
signified, and a signifier.
> --
> Robin Faichney
> 
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