Re: What are memes made of?

From: Joe E. Dees (joedees@bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri Feb 11 2000 - 23:18:39 GMT

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    From: Robin Faichney <robin@faichney.demon.co.uk>
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    > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Joe E. Dees wrote:
    > >
    > >> William van den heuvel:
    > >>
    > >> So, if you like to bring in the "intentional stance" it would have to follow
    > >> the "meaning stance". Hence, we now have four stances:
    > >> 1.- the physical stance
    > >> 2.- the formal stance
    > >> 3.- the meaning stance
    > >> 4.- the intentional stance
    > >>
    > >Meaning and intention are co-primordial in the sense that there
    > >must be meaning differences for there to be selective intention, but
    > >selective intention is necessary to imbue particular meanings. For
    > >every intention, there must be both an intending applied to an
    > >intended, and an intender; for every meaning (noun) there must be
    > >both a meaning (verb) applied to a meant, and a meaner.
    >
    > Is this a development of "ordinary language" philosophy?
    >
    It is a co-development of US/British analytic philosophy (which
    includes ordinary language philosophy) and French/German
    continental philosophy (which includes existential and hermeneutic
    phenomenology). Rephrasing using the word signification, I could
    replace the ugly word "meaner" thusly:

    For every signification, there must be both a signifying applied to a
    signified, and a signifier.

    > --
    > Robin Faichney
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