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From: "Lawrence H. de Bivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: meaning in memetics
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>
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Soc. Lab. 2 wrote:
>
> ><snip from robin/joe>
>
> >> >the foundation of memetics. Do you even know what the
> >word=20
> >> >"meme" means? Just as genetic characteristics are
> >enGENdered=20
> >> >(replicated) through sexual reproduction, memes are
> >reMEMbered=20
> >> >(lodged in the MEMory) by means of communicative
> >replication=20
> >> >between intentionalities.
>
> Please, not "Just as..."
>
> Genes MAY be a useful metaphor to push our thinking on memes (though my
> view is that it has overstayed its usefulness), but that is all it is, a
> metaphor. If we find memetic patterns and dynamics that are dissimilar to
> those of genes, we should not hesitate to recognize them, rather than try
> and shoe-horn memes into a genes-derived structure.
>
You are quite correct; similar does not mean identical, and
metaphors are not equivalences.
>
> Lawrence de Bivort
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