Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id PAA18669 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:36:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.110.248.206] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Why memeoids? Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:30:59 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F68wDRzXILBb3v0000a6fb@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2002 15:31:00.0327 (UTC) FILETIME=[70813770:01C1B4A3] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Why memeoids?
>Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:57:40 +1100
>
>
>On Tuesday, February 12, 2002, at 06:32 PM, Joe Dees wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:22:03 +1100
>>>Re: Why memeoids? John Wilkins <wilkins@wehi.edu.au>
>>>memetics@mmu.ac.ukReply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tuesday, February 12, 2002, at 03:51 PM, Keith Henson wrote:
>>>
>>>>At 10:01 PM 11/02/02 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>Hi Keith Henson -
>>>>>
>>>>>>Infective speech fillers people pick up of the "you know" and "fact
>>>>>of the
>>>>>>matter" are these kind of minimal memes. I am not aware of a term
>>>>>for for
>>>>>>such minimal memes. Suggest one if you wish.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mememurs.
>>>>
>>>>Why? (what derivation does -murs have?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I think he means -mers, as in polymers and monomers. But then it should
>>>be polymemes and monomemes, and this requires some notion of a "simple"
>>>meme just as monomer requires some notion of a simple molecule (which
>>>is
>>>not, so far as I can tell, forthcoming :-)
>>>
>>The smallest meaningful unit of language is the morpheme; how could one
>>combine/contract these two (morpheme and meme) into a single
>>distinctive word? Morph-memes?
>
>Bill Croft of Manchester uni has already coined a perfectly good
>linguistic unit for an evolutionary account of language - the lingueme,
>and I strongly suggest we adopt it - he defines it in a forthcoming
>paper in Selection as "a token of linguistic structure". Morphemes only
>apply to words and word parts, while phonemes refer to sound parts. Both
>are linguemes if they are passed on entire.
>--
>John S Wilkins
>Head, Communication Services
>The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research
>Parkville, Victoria, Australia
>
Should the plural of lingueme be linguini?
Grant ;-)>
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