Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id PAA18594 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:10:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.110.248.206] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: ality Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:04:30 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F126SxBKhvdwQV00012487@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2002 15:04:30.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD095630:01C1B49F] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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>Grant,
>
> > >This is getting very complicated. Far simpler if memories aren't
>stored
> > >anywhere but emerge from the act of recollection. Instead of
>attributing
> > >an artificial memory system to the brain, we should be searching for
>the
> > >basis of natural memory, that is, the recall of what was once present.
> >
> > Recall it from where?
>
>You mean, from when.
>
>Memory concerns time, not space. Otherwise it's not really memory but
>merely the storage and retrieval of information. In our memetically
>ingrained, mechanistic worldview, true memory is a thing of the past.
>Artificial memory is just that-- artifice.
>
>Ted
>
From my own experience and what I've read on the subject I know that
memories are reconstructed as much as recalled. But the elements from which
they are reconstructed come from within me. I don't have to use some
external reference to construct them. I've memorized thousands of lines of
poetry, but when I was trying to recall the Rubayatt the other day, I had to
go over certain lines half a dozen times to get them right in my head. Even
then, I made mistakes. Fitzgerald wrote too many versions and I keep
getting them mixed up. The fact that I memorized it in high school over 50
years ago leaves it scattered among all the stuff I've picked up since. But
still, if I work hard enough to pull it out, it all seems to be there.
Grant
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