Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id AAA16371 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:12:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.110.248.206] From: "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: ply to Grant Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:06:54 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <LAW2-F6E1ioWwr2UAaT0000fa4d@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2002 00:06:54.0155 (UTC) FILETIME=[5802C9B0:01C1B422] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: RE: ply to Grant
>Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:35:10 -0000
>
> <Vincent, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the quote in
>line one
> > above is mine. But even if it was, what difference does a single word
> > make
> > in a long conversation? No one here is writing these snippets for
> > publication -- I don't think. A lot of what is written is carelessly
> > tossed around on the spur of the moment. Your objection to the use of
> > "we" that may include you is duely noted and will be avoided by me in
>the
> > future. Does that solve the problem for you? I can't even remember what
> > we were talking about when the incident occurred and it doesn't seem
>worth
> > the
> > effort of tracing it back to its beginnings.>
> >
> It wasn't that long ago, and we were talking about the "great"
>innnovators and cultural change, based on your initial claim that those
>innovators determined the cultures that followed in the wake of new
>technologies. When I challenged this assertion you used the phrase 'we see
>if differently' implying the you had the support of others. When I asked
>exactly who you meant by 'we' you said, rather confusingly, you meant you
>and I. Such things are particularly relevant if you're going to offer
>appeals to authority to support your views, even in a discursive, non-peer
>reviewed environment like this list. Still, I don't want to come across as
>a pedant ('too late!' the gallery cries!) so if you don't want your just-so
>stories about the wonders of global capitalism to be challenged, then we
>can
>agree to drop the subject.
>
> Vincent
Feel free to challenge. Lets just not waste a lot of time arguing over the
pronouns. I don't look to authority to support my view. I often bring up
the writing of others because that seems to be the preferred form here, but
I stand by what I say entirely on my own. I have incorporated the views of
others into my own world view, not to make it more right or better than
someone else's, but because I liked the view and agreed with it. I don't
mind that others might not. I don't expect their world view to be the same
as mine. If someone can demonstrate that the view I have adopted is not as
good as theirs, I'll change my view. I'm always endeavoring to improve my
map.
Cheers,
Grant
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