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> <If the employees could get together and vote their stock
>collectively, they could change just about any policy a company has.>
>
> 'If' is the key word indeed.
>
> 'outsourcing'
>
> Ah, one of the many corporate euphemisms for jobcuts. It's a bit
>like collatoral damage in military jargon.
>
> Vincent
>
You could also look at it as relocating the work to a new place. The people
in that area are employed, too. We (you and I) are not just talking about
job loss here. If someone else is able to do the job more cheaply and
efficiently, why not give it to him/her instead? Do you want to freeze
everyone into the jobs they now hold? That should bring the evolution of
manufacturing and production to a screeching halt.
They'd better get rid of all the robots making cars, too. Ten or more
people could be filling the job of each robot. Cars could cost as much as a
hundred thousand dollars each. Now that's progress! Perhaps the Japanese
should be castigated for building the Lexus with only 50 workers in their
automated factory. And the robots aren't even getting paid a salary! Now
there's slave labor for you.
I notice you seem to look at every social change in a negative light.
Comparing outsourcing with collateral damage by a military organization, for
example. That's what I call hyperbolic propaganda. The times they are
achangin'. Better get used to it.
We (all of us) are living in a global economy because that's what we
(humanity) have evolved to. The number of people inhabiting the earth and
the civilization they have built requires it. Kill off a few billion people
and we (humanity) can go back to living in a simpler culture. Kill of
enough, and our species can go back to fighting our wars by throwing rocks
at each other. But no matter how many people die, I don't think we can undo
the path of evolution we have trod this far. The fewer people would still
drive cars, use computers, robots and other machines, and find more
efficient ways to manufacture their goods. The loss of people would not get
rid of all the memes we've acquired. They're stored in libraries.
Grant
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