Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id IAA13476 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:24:14 GMT Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:18:34 -0800 Message-Id: <200202120818.g1C8IYM8025393@mail25.bigmailbox.com> X-Authentication-Warning: mail25.bigmailbox.com: www set sender to joedees@addall.com using -f Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.162.88] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Words and memes: criteria for acceptance of new belief or meme Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> "Philip Jonkers" <philipjonkers@prodigy.net> <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Re: Words and memes: criteria for acceptance of new belief or memeDate: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 11:52:41 -0900
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>
>> Hello, Philip,
>> Sorry for the poor phrasing.
>
>Hi Lawrence, no problem...
>> By this, I mean that different people will require (consciously or
>> unconsciously) different levels of 'proof' or certainty before they will
>> accept a new belief or meme. For example, some will want total proof that
>> leaves no room for uncertainty. Others will accept a belief that contains
>> some ambiguity. (Colloquially, we refer to this phenomena by saying that
>> someone is 'hard to convince', or 'gullible', or 'stubborn'.)
>>
>> Does this clarify the phrase?
>
>Yes is does. We are on a par still.
>
>> Further, our criteria for acceptance of a meme can also vary with the
>source
>> of the meme. Some people accept memes that come from authority figures,
>> others will want to see demonstrations, others will want to hear an
>> explanation that 'makes sense' given their prior knowledge. People can
>even
>> change a belief they have because they come the conclusion that it is not
>> serving them and look for an alternative.
>
>Exactly..
>In my own words, I'd like to talk of a barrier
>of skepsis that has to be overcome by the meme to get adopted. Some people
>have low barriers, others high. Indeed, the height of the barrier also
>depends
>on who offers the meme at hand (authority figures, `comedians', kids,
>elders, etc...) and on the timedependent status of the host (is he `sharp',
>`susceptible', good mooded etc.) as well as whether the meme is interesting
>or appealing to
>the host.
>
And some memes are hook-y, IOW, they contain elements that tend to circumvent such barriers. Filters and hooks, since they are competing evolutionary strategies (like perceptual discernment and camoflage), cannot be considered in isolation from each other.
>
>Philip.
>
>
>
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