Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id IAA13353 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:00:33 GMT Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:54:54 -0800 Message-Id: <200202120754.g1C7ssNK023998@mail25.bigmailbox.com> X-Authentication-Warning: mail25.bigmailbox.com: www set sender to joedees@addall.com using -f Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.162.88] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Words and Memes Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> "Dace" <edace@earthlink.net> <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Re: Words and MemesDate: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:07:41 -0800
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>
>Grant
>
>> > Culture can be divided into intentional and memetic.
>> > While the "atoms of culture" are always taking on a
>> > life of their own-- far beyond the intentions of
>> > their creators-- we are continually regenerating
>> > culture from the foundation. Even if a particular
>> > tune is known to be "catchy," if I consciously
>> > decide to hum it, it's a function of intentional
>> > culture. Only when it starts playing on its own--
>> > and continues replaying long after it's begun to
>> > annoy me-- does it become a function of memetic
>> > culture.
>>
>> It's hard to choose and use a tool unintentionally.
>
>Which is why it doesn't make much sense to regard memes as tools. Ideas are
>tools. Ways of doing things can be thought of as tools. Memes spring up
>when the tools start running on auto-pilot.
>
Cognitive memes spring up, among other instances, when an intentionality-understanding mind apprehends and grasps purposive design in intentionally produced tools.
>
>Ted
>
>
>
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