Re: Words and memes

From: Joe Dees (joedees@addall.com)
Date: Wed Feb 06 2002 - 07:26:51 GMT

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    > Re: Words and memesDate: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 07:41:20 -0500
    > "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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    >Hi Joe Dees -
    >
    >>And that is a major flaw with behavior-only; it cannot acknowledge the
    >>latent and potential memetic efficacy of communication-designed artifacts
    >
    >Well, _my_ behavior-only memetic stance does. (I don't know about any
    >others, really.) I use the whole of aesthetics to deal with the efficacy
    >of the communications of artefacts. I don't deny their strength, at all.
    >In fact, IMHO, the behavior-only stance elevates the artefacts' status,
    >and makes them more important, than just calling them 'outside' vs
    >'inside' memes.
    >
    >And, by using aesthetics and dramatic theories (and others) for the study
    >of artefacts, demands more attribution to the narrative components.
    >
    >So, no, artefacts are not downgraded or not acknowledged _at all_ in
    >behavior-only memetic analysis. They are, after all, often the by-product
    >of the behavior. They just ain't called memes.
    >
    Plenty of significant behavior (including both performative and communicative) can only be engaged in after reading communicative artifacts such as (text)books.
    >
    >- Wade
    >
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