Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id HAA19476 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:32:36 GMT Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 23:26:51 -0800 Message-Id: <200202060726.g167Qp715066@mail3.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [66.156.194.113] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Words and memes Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> Re: Words and memesDate: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 07:41:20 -0500
> "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>Hi Joe Dees -
>
>>And that is a major flaw with behavior-only; it cannot acknowledge the
>>latent and potential memetic efficacy of communication-designed artifacts
>
>Well, _my_ behavior-only memetic stance does. (I don't know about any
>others, really.) I use the whole of aesthetics to deal with the efficacy
>of the communications of artefacts. I don't deny their strength, at all.
>In fact, IMHO, the behavior-only stance elevates the artefacts' status,
>and makes them more important, than just calling them 'outside' vs
>'inside' memes.
>
>And, by using aesthetics and dramatic theories (and others) for the study
>of artefacts, demands more attribution to the narrative components.
>
>So, no, artefacts are not downgraded or not acknowledged _at all_ in
>behavior-only memetic analysis. They are, after all, often the by-product
>of the behavior. They just ain't called memes.
>
Plenty of significant behavior (including both performative and communicative) can only be engaged in after reading communicative artifacts such as (text)books.
>
>- Wade
>
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