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From: Keith Henson <hkhenson@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: Words and memes
I have often written that an idea fails to be a meme (at best it is a
potential meme) when someone has an idea and never communicates the
idea. By this line of thinking an idea written on paper is still not a
meme until someone (other than the writer) read it. Shades of the
spooky
observer effects in quantum mechanics!
Of course, none of this negates the essence of any particular meme being
pure information.
Keith Henson<
I think this is because we rely too much on the analogy of genes. Obviously,
i have my genes, and should i have children these (some at any rate) will be
passed on. If i write an idea down and no one reads it, it is not passed on.
I don’t see a problem with terming something a potential meme, though is
there a difference betwen an idea i do not communicate, and on that i write
down and file?. The one that i file may become available in the future.
Indeed, in most western countries, reports, files etc are held by the
goverment as classified information, and released slowly. Are these
potential?
I wonder how the Pope feels about potential memes as opposed to *potentail
life*? :- )
thanks for the quote. It is an enjoyable article.
Steve
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