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Hi Joe Dees -
>If I say to someone else that the bacon's in the fridge, and they tell a
>third person, then meaningful information has been replicated, a necessary
>and sufficient condition for memetic propagation to be said to have taken
>place. It would also result in the modification of behavior; the third
>person would look for the bacon in the fridge rather than in the freezer.
It is a claim of yours about memetics that this exchange of information
is memetic propagation. (It is not a claim I accept.)
Because I could claim, with equal validity, that's it's got nothing to do
with memetics whatsoever- it's just like the dance of the honey bee. The
location of a food has been expressed in both instances.
(There is no modification of behavior, however, as we have not observed
this third person going to the freezer at all from your presentation.)
- Wade
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