Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA03674 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:42:25 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 02:37:55 -0800 Message-Id: <200201281037.g0SAbte07185@mail21.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.160.154] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Rogue Males by Lionel Tiger Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
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> memetics@mmu.ac.uk Stephen Springette <tramont@iinet.net.au> Re: Rogue Males by Lionel TigerReply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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>At 06:38 25-01-02 -0800, Joe Dees wrote:
>>Religious conserviatives of all dogmatic stripes have always decried what
>>they proclaim as the liberal secular pedestalling of women as a device to
>>keep their feet in the womens' backs as they keep them pressed face-down
>>in the gutter.
>
>To clarify. There is nothing conservative about my views. As an
>enthusiastic liberal back when I was doing my undergraduate degree in 1985,
>I eventually saw the hypocrisy of my "liberal" friends and colleagues who
>were, in reality, every bit as "conservative" (if not more so) than the
>mainstream conservatism that they were trying to reject. I became irritated
>with the fashion of liberalism and the jollity and bonhomie by which they
>defined and asserted their rules of proper behavior. The drugs they used
>and the people they fucked had nothing whatsoever to do with freedom, and
>everything to do with peer pressure and the cowardice of conformity.
>
>Thus I've made for myself a third option. It is one that does not fit in
>with mainstream notions of either liberalism or conservatism. Does that
>make me a religious conservative?
>
You sound so premedieval that few contemporary conservatives, religious or otherwise, would be caught closer than a country mile to your left.
Dare to be bigoted! And even dare to attempt to justify it! Construct an entire edifice of rationalization for your animus. It's been done before, to every group under the sun. Including women. Your brave new third option is as old as the third reich, and as Otto Weininger demonstrates, old hat even earlier. Your days of future are in everyone else's past.
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>
>Newton's Laws of Emotion:
>http://members.iinet.net.au/~tramont/biosem.html
>There can be no complexity without simplicity.
>
>Applied simplicity:
>http://members.iinet.net.au/~tramont/applied.html
>
>Stephen Springette
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