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At 10:09 27-01-02 -0800, Joe Dees wrote:
> It is impos!
>sible, for instance, to incorporate evolution within the rubric of
>semiotics, if it is being done properly (and a lot of it isn't). You need
>memetics for that. As I said before; these two disciplines are
>complementary; each contributes something that the other cannot, thus
>combining them in a study maximises one's chances of grokking one's object
>- which is why it makes no sense to leave one for the other.
Well put, Joe. But memetics carries too much genetic-determinist baggage,
and this constant implied reference to genes-as-cause puts a serious limit
on how far we can take memetics.
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