Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA29541 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:36:07 GMT Message-ID: <001601c1a6b0$854c2760$5e2ffea9@oemcomputer> From: "Philip Jonkers" <philipjonkers@prodigy.net> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <200201260026.g0Q0QV920469@mail15.bigmailbox.com> Subject: Re: necessity of mental memes Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:29:02 -0900 Organization: Prodigy Internet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Grant:
> >Sorry, I still don't get it. If everything started from a single point
(the
> >singularity) and has been expanding outward ever since, things at the
center
> >would tend to stay at the center, whouldn't they? And things flung
outward
> >would continue flying outward toward the edge as the ball expands. So if
> >we're looking backward in time toward the earliest galaxies whose light
left
> >the center of the ball some 12 billion years ago and is just reaching us
> >now, how did we travel fast enough to be here to catch it? Did the light
> >take a more roundabout route? It's still a puzzlement.
Joe:
> The universe is a hypersphere whose center is everywhere and whose
periphery is nowhere.
I believe the orange-peel analogy is in place here, i.e. consider the
universe as
an expanding orange peel. The universe is just that: the peel, where the
void
normally included within the peel `simply' doesn't exist. Each point on the
peel
has no special meaning with respect to others and all are equally valid
candidates
to serve as `centers'. Even more exciting is that you can end up at the same
once you've travelled along a `straight' line long enough.
Confusing? Yeah well that's cosmology...
Philip.
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