Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id AAA27451 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:30:48 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:26:31 -0800 Message-Id: <200201260026.g0Q0QV920469@mail15.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.160.204] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: necessity of mental memes Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> "Grant Callaghan" <grantc4@hotmail.com> memetics@mmu.ac.uk Re: necessity of mental memesDate: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:16:00 -0800
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>> >>
>>The light expanded both utward and inward in the hypersphere, which has
>>similar properties as a 3-d sphere (actually 4-d - 3 spatial plus 1
>>temporal), but in different planes. For instance, if you travel in one
>>direction on the curved surface of a sphere, you will end up where you
>>started after circumnavigating it. In a hypersphere, whichever direction
>>you travel in its space, you will eventually not reach the edge, but arrive
>>at the point you left after traveling a distance equivalent to the width of
>>the sphere (due to spacetime curvature). Thus, no matter from where you
>>look, to look out in space is to look backward in time, for the deeper you
>>look, the farther the light from what you see had to go to get to you.
>>Light generated by the Big Bang - which was everywhere in the universe at
>>the moment of bangage - has to travel the longest distance.
>> >>
>>
>Sorry, I still don't get it. If everything started from a single point (the
>singularity) and has been expanding outward ever since, things at the center
>would tend to stay at the center, whouldn't they? And things flung outward
>would continue flying outward toward the edge as the ball expands. So if
>we're looking backward in time toward the earliest galaxies whose light left
>the center of the ball some 12 billion years ago and is just reaching us
>now, how did we travel fast enough to be here to catch it? Did the light
>take a more roundabout route? It's still a puzzlement.
>
>Grant
>
The universe is a hypersphere whose center is everywhere and whose periphery is nowhere.
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