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From: Joe Dees
>>You know, one thing about this speed of light thing and traveling through
>>the galaxy has always puzzled me. In literature on modern cosmology I
>>keep reading that the universe is around 15 billion years old since the
>>big bang from which everything started. We now have telescopes that
>>can bring in light that left galaxies some 12 to 15 billion years ago.
So,
>>if the big bang started us all out from the same point at the same time,
>>and nothing can travel faster than light, how did we get here first to
>>receive that light? It's a puzzlement.
>>
>>Grant
>>
> The light expanded both utward and inward in the hypersphere, which has
similar properties as a 3-d sphere (actually 4-d - 3 spatial plus 1
temporal), but in different planes. For instance, if you travel in one
direction on the curved surface of a sphere, you will end up where you
started after circumnavigating it. In a hypersphere, whichever direction
you travel in its space, you will eventually not reach the edge, but arrive
at the point you left after traveling a distance equivalent to the width of
the sphere (due to spacetime curvature). Thus, no matter from where you
look, to look out in space is to look backward in time, for the deeper you
look, the farther the light from what you see had to go to get to you.
Light generated by the Big Bang - which was everywhere in the universe at
the moment of bangage - has to travel the longest distance.
>>>
Just one problem here. The big bang was pitch black. Light didn't appear
until 300,000 years after the big bang (which was both infinitesimal and
dead silent). The universe was completely dark until the primordial
substance divided into matter and radiation. Atoms and light emerged
simultaneously.
Ted
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