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I really was not attempting to discuss particular cases of "fake term papers, 
fake dissertations, fake degrees, fake methods, fake experiments, etc. all 
the way up to fake sciences (pseudosciences)." I suppose it might remind 
people of my past discussions of fake "labs" and fake "institutions," though. 
Such things might be more common in the murkier realm of social sciences than 
in nuclear physics, where the methods of testing a hypothesis are usually 
more clear cut. 
I think that young scientists can easily withstand exposure to some 
suggestions that we all keep our eyes open. Why would anyone suggest 
otherwise? To protect the young people, or to protect the children? Young 
people and children reading the news are already exposed to cautionary tales 
such as the Enron case, the recent scandal over plagiarized term papers in 
physics, industry exerting distorting influences on drug studies, etc. Like 
it or not, examining such things is an established part of the overall 
process of science anddoes not need to be eradicated from science. It might 
not always happen through routine discourse, however -- any more than we 
would expect routine discourse with Enron officials to have solved that 
problem. 
--Aaron Lynch
EARLIER COMMENTS, without context changes:
In a message dated 1/25/2002 7:45:54 AM Central Standard Time, Wade T. Smith 
<wade_smith@harvard.edu> writes:
>  On 01/25/02 00:48, AaronLynch@aol.com said this-
>  
>  >When used deceptively or equivocally, words can foster rampant Enronism 
in 
>  >the sciences.
>  
>  Like 'Enronism' for instance. What, pray tell, is your two cents about 
>  that coin? All it implies to me, right now, is 'how the mighty may fall', 
>  and that doesn't make much sense in your sentence.
>  
>  - Wade
Hi Wade.
So here's my 2 cents. It's just a word. An amusing word that came to mind 
amid the growing explanations of what was happening in Enron. The rich system 
of fake subsidiaries, fake profits, fake assets, fake loyalties, fake audits, 
fake ideologies, fake tax "refunds," etc. And the attempt to make something 
big come into existence by getting enough people to believe that it already 
existed. In a way, something big did exist, but it was not exactly what it 
seemed to be. On the ideological side, we saw a company pushing the gospel of 
small government and free markets all while setting up an accounting trick 
that may have gotten them hundreds of millions of executive salary paid with 
a "refund" on taxes that were not paid in the first place. That, of course, 
might be considered socialism masquerading as market capitalism. There was 
also that effort to get the government to strong-arm private lenders into 
extending more credit, also in stark contrast to the free-market, 
small-government image being projected. The hypocrisy, at least, was not 
faked. 
As for "Enronism," it is a word that may itself come into existence in 
standard usage simply from having enough people believe that it is a standard 
word. (I imagine it has been coined elsewhere, too.) The Enron case shows 
fraud, graft, hypocrisy, and carefully crafted illusions mixing on such a 
large scale that it seems to call out for an "ism." 
Are there things that might be considered "Enronism" in science? In my 
opinion, yes, but not on quite the scale as in business. One can look at 
cases of fake term papers, fake dissertations, fake degrees, fake methods, 
fake experiments, etc. all the way up to fake sciences (pseudosciences). (My 
present purpose is not, however, to make specific allegations. Besides, our 
list has a policy against allegations.) Science has ways of addressing such 
problems, but it is not a magical process of ignoring problems and having 
them thus go away -- any more than it is in business. And there are similar 
challenges in all kinds of other human endeavors. Had I subscribed to a 
political discussion list, I could probably have dropped a reference to 
Enronism in politics. 
--Aaron Lynch
It's probably worth noting that the Enronism in business had a major effect 
on politics. Without Enron, George W. Bush would probably not have won the 
presidential race. (Even the Republican primary is a big question mark.) 
Arguably, the executives at Enron were acting as American oligarchs. 
The whole thing carries over into science as well, since the president of the 
USA has enormous influence on the science and education budgets in this 
country. There are real consequences to the lack of effective scrutiny and 
real accountability enjoyed for so long by Enron. 
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