Re: A Confusing Example

From: Joe Dees (joedees@addall.com)
Date: Wed Jan 23 2002 - 04:40:12 GMT

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    > "Dace" <edace@earthlink.net> <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Re: A Confusing ExampleDate: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:33:49 -0800
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    >From: Francesca S. Alcorn
    >
    >> >That different regions of the brain are associated with different
    >> >aspects of mental functioning doesn't mean the brain is somehow
    >> >generating or directing or storing any of this mental existence. The
    >> >brain knows nothing of what it facilitates.
    >>
    >>
    >> The model which I read (a few years ago now, so maybe it has changed)
    >> suggests that learning results in increased sensitivity at the
    >> synapses, and increased connections among neurons. Thus learning
    >> and experience *directly* change the structure of the brain.
    >
    >Sure. But that doesn't mean the brain itself learns or has experiences.
    >When I learned how to tie my shoes, no doubt this had an effect on my brain.
    >But that doesn't mean my brain learned how to tie shoes. The only thing
    >that happened in my brain is that a few neurons forged some new connections.
    >That the brain facilitates mental activity cannot, by itself, constitute
    >proof that it contains or is in some way identical to mental activity.
    >Given the abstract and representational nature of mentality, it seems absurd
    >that mind could be reduced to any physical object, including the brain.
    >(Since when did an atom "represent" another atom?) That memes are in the
    >mind doesn't mean they're in the brain. The brain's activities facilitate
    >memes as much as any other aspect of human consciousness.
    >
    The dynamically recursive mind that emerges from the complex material substrate brain experiences and acts.
    >
    >Ted
    >
    >
    >
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