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Salice:
>Wasn't platon already thinking about this? I can
remember the
>example of the horses being all different from each
other but we
>can all identify them as horses.
Steve:
>Yes, Plato did discuss this in The Republic when he
was arguing about=20
>representation of Ideal forms and their worldly
couterparts.
Now that we come to mention it, here's some additional
info. I quote from Darwin's Dangerous Idea page 36:
`Thus Aristotle had taught [...], all things-not just
living things-had two kinds of properties: essential
properties, without which they wouldn't be the
particular kind of thing they were, and accidental
properties, which were free to vary within the kind.'
`Aristotle had developed his theory of essences as an
improvement on Plato's theory of Ideas, according to
which every earthly thing is a sort of imperfect copy
or reflection of an ideal exemplar of Form that existed
timelessly in the Platonic realm of Ideas, reigned
over by God.'
What an active imaginition these guys had. But
different times, different memes. By the way, these
kind of memes are pathological according to Ted, as
they obviously give an false interpretation of reality.
Perhaps, in a thousand years or so, people will look
at our worldview with equal amusement which then is
also pathological in retrospect.
Philip.
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