Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id IAA02037 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:02:53 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 23:58:30 -0800 Message-Id: <200201180758.g0I7wUY32033@mail17.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.160.162] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Do all memes die out or evolve? I think not. Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> <salice@gmx.net> memetics@mmu.ac.ukDate: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:18:34 +0100
> Re: Do all memes die out or evolve? I think not.Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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>> > But the meme stays objectively the same.
>> Then it should be the same object at all times.
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>Just the form of the object(s) has to be the same.
>My view is that two memes aren't identical if their form differs.
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>Writing 'help' and screaming 'help' are two different memes. The
>written word and the recorded sound are different memes. They are
>related but not identical.
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If you see a conscious fellow at the bottom of a dry well who yells "help" or who has written the readable word "help" in the sand, either way, you will most probably react the same. You'll ask how he's doing, then toss him a rope or go to find one or someone who can help you help him.
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