Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id IAA02261 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:45:50 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:41:25 -0800 Message-Id: <200201180841.g0I8fPV02805@mail17.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [65.80.160.162] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory PerceptionDate: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:13:50 -0000
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>Hiya everyone,
>
>Hands up who thinks Richard's views here have any credence whatsoever?
>Notice the way he uses the term 'we' as though he was personally engaged in
>the destruction of Afghanistan. If only he was prepared to have an open
>debate about such issues, but it looks like only fellow Americans are
>afforded the luxury of not being filtered.
>
>Vincent
>
I, for one, happen to share them, as do Howard Bloom, Ibn Warraq, Richard Dawkins, Samuel Huntington, and many others,
>
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>> From: Richard Brodie
>> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 16:35 PM
>> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>> Subject: RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception
>>
>> <<Slowly, the Bush administration is beginning to see the inconsistencies
>> and
>> drawbacks of their actions: yesterday, unidentified Whote House 'sources'
>> conceded that the US actions in Afghanistan haven't 'won the war on
>> terrorism.'>>
>>
>> Bush said this repeatedly from day one.
>>
>> << Next, I hope, will come the recognition that when something
>> fails, doing it harder is not the answer. And then perhaps there will be a
>> willingness to think about terrorism intelligently and to design policies
>> and actions that will defuse it. But I think it will be several months
>> before we get to this point.>>
>>
>> I'm astounded that anyone could consider the battle we just won in
>> Afghanistan a failure. We killed thousands of enemy soldiers, destroyed
>> all
>> their bases, and gathered tons of intelligence. What can you be thinking?
>>
>> <<Also, in the category of the Bush administration calming down and coming
>> to
>> its senses, it has now conceded that missile attacks from 'rogue states'
>> are
>> not the greatest military danger to the US, but that low-grade terrorist
>> attacks (e.g. trucks a la Oklahoma city) are. Some analysts have been
>> arguing this for months (and some years) and it is nice to see some
>> progress.>>
>>
>> Second time you've used the word "concede" as if everybody didn't know
>> this
>> from day one.
>>
>> <<The Bush adminsitration understood little of the
>> US role internationally, and next to nothing about the Middle East.>>
>>
>> With Powell, Rumsfeld, and Bush Sr. in the camp, I doubt there has ever
>> been
>> an Administration with better understanding.
>>
>>
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