Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id TAA29981 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:35:00 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:30:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Wade Smith <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <NEBBKOADILIOKGDJLPMAEEKECJAA.debivort@umd5.umd.edu> Message-Id: <A2810074-0B80-11D6-906F-003065A0F24C@harvard.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.480) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Thursday, January 17, 2002, at 12:44 , Lawrence DeBivort wrote:
> Whether we say that a meme is 'in the brain' or outside, what
> ultimately
> counts is its effect within the brain of its recipients, and
> then on the
> recipient's actions.
And what I want to say is "We say that a meme is outside, and
what ultimately
counts is its replication in an observer's further behavior."
Not much different.
I'd like to go on to say-
> IMO, he brain being the place where a person
> integrates an enormous amount of thoughts, emotions, logic,
> perceptions,
> etc., the likelihood that any meme will lodge itself unaffected
> by the rest
> of the brain's activities is slim to zero
"The brain, being the integrator of an enormous amount of
thoughts, emotions, logics, perceptions, etc., the likelihood
that any observation will lodge itself unaffectedly to the rest
of the brain's activities is slim to zero."
Not much different, either.
Unfortunately, I don't quite understand your conclusion....
> thus evolution ought not to be
> impeded at all by high-fidelity meme transmission through to a person's
> sensory apparatus.
Although, I think we both get to the same point, but, before I
declare that, I need just a bit of further clarification about
what 'transmission through to a person's sensory apparatus'
means.
- Wade
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