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Hiya everyone,
Hands up who thinks Richard's views here have any credence whatsoever?
Notice the way he uses the term 'we' as though he was personally engaged in
the destruction of Afghanistan. If only he was prepared to have an open
debate about such issues, but it looks like only fellow Americans are
afforded the luxury of not being filtered.
Vincent
> ----------
> From: Richard Brodie
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 16:35 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Knowledge, Memes and Sensory Perception
>
> <<Slowly, the Bush administration is beginning to see the inconsistencies
> and
> drawbacks of their actions: yesterday, unidentified Whote House 'sources'
> conceded that the US actions in Afghanistan haven't 'won the war on
> terrorism.'>>
>
> Bush said this repeatedly from day one.
>
> << Next, I hope, will come the recognition that when something
> fails, doing it harder is not the answer. And then perhaps there will be a
> willingness to think about terrorism intelligently and to design policies
> and actions that will defuse it. But I think it will be several months
> before we get to this point.>>
>
> I'm astounded that anyone could consider the battle we just won in
> Afghanistan a failure. We killed thousands of enemy soldiers, destroyed
> all
> their bases, and gathered tons of intelligence. What can you be thinking?
>
> <<Also, in the category of the Bush administration calming down and coming
> to
> its senses, it has now conceded that missile attacks from 'rogue states'
> are
> not the greatest military danger to the US, but that low-grade terrorist
> attacks (e.g. trucks a la Oklahoma city) are. Some analysts have been
> arguing this for months (and some years) and it is nice to see some
> progress.>>
>
> Second time you've used the word "concede" as if everybody didn't know
> this
> from day one.
>
> <<The Bush adminsitration understood little of the
> US role internationally, and next to nothing about the Middle East.>>
>
> With Powell, Rumsfeld, and Bush Sr. in the camp, I doubt there has ever
> been
> an Administration with better understanding.
>
>
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