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Hi Joe Dees -
>They may show them, tell them, write to them, show them a picture, all
>with the (sometimes successful) intention of transmitting the selfsame meme.
Well, I'm feverish, not thinking straight, although I'm sure there are
those who would say that is my normal MO, but, what you just said above
looks like a behavior that is a meme to me. All I have to do is change
'selfsame meme' to 'meaning' and I'm set.
But, it does look like meaning is a stickler here, and even intention. I
was trying to get out of the way of that semantic, well, crap, by
isolating the meme, the cultural element of evolution, to behavior, and
moving everything else into the factory, the memetic pool, the cultural
environment- ideas, intentions, meanings, language, laws, skills, arts,
science, fashion, et al.
In this way, the behavioral meme was the obvious agent in the environment
of culture- the agent that altered the species of chair upon which we
sat, and the agent that altered the variety of restaurant where we ate,
and the agent that altered the shape of the hat on our heads, ad
infinitum. And none of that messy meaning stuff to have to sift through,
and interpret, and well, get wrong.
- Wade
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